Comments on: Gucci places faith in Scriptaculous over Flash http://www.redcardinal.ie/javascript/23-08-2006/gucci-places-faith-in-scriptaculous-over-flash/ Search Engine Optimisation Ireland Tue, 31 Mar 2015 10:03:56 +0100 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.1 By: Jonathanhttp://www.redcardinal.ie/javascript/23-08-2006/gucci-places-faith-in-scriptaculous-over-flash/#comment-169 Tue, 21 Nov 2006 09:28:14 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/webdev/23-08-2006/gucci-places-faith-in-scriptaculous-over-flash/#comment-169 Hi Brett

Thanks for the posts/replys.

I know that Javascript support is improving on many user agents, such as JAWS and Window Eyes etc…but still find it slightly frustrating having been involved in user tests with customers with accessibility requirements, know how frustrated they get using sites such as this, as well as Flash driven content.

Jonathan

PS Richard – thanks for your comment on the site. Cool Blog, will stay in touch.

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By: Richard Hearnehttp://www.redcardinal.ie/javascript/23-08-2006/gucci-places-faith-in-scriptaculous-over-flash/#comment-168 Tue, 21 Nov 2006 08:19:43 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/webdev/23-08-2006/gucci-places-faith-in-scriptaculous-over-flash/#comment-168 Good point Brett

And if you really want to check out your accessible site you can actually go one step further and install a text browser such as Lynx.

Then your mind will truly be opened to how vision impaired people see your wesbite. I have to say I have a very much deeper appreciation for accessible mark-up ever since installing Lynx.

I wonder where flash only sites would fit into this?

Rgds

Richard

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By: Brett Terpstrahttp://www.redcardinal.ie/javascript/23-08-2006/gucci-places-faith-in-scriptaculous-over-flash/#comment-167 Tue, 21 Nov 2006 00:59:43 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/webdev/23-08-2006/gucci-places-faith-in-scriptaculous-over-flash/#comment-167 It’s relatively easy–on a small site–to provide fallbacks for browsers that have javascript disabled. Gucci’s site is so saturated with effects that there is little semantic markup left for the non-javascript browser. Which is okay for Gucci, they know their target audience, and can afford to snub some folks. Until Target-style litigation, anyway.

If you ever question whether a site is accessible, use Firefox with the Web Developer extension. That will let you turn off javascript and CSS individually and see what’s left, as well as test other accessibility features.

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By: Richard Hearnehttp://www.redcardinal.ie/javascript/23-08-2006/gucci-places-faith-in-scriptaculous-over-flash/#comment-166 Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:00:14 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/webdev/23-08-2006/gucci-places-faith-in-scriptaculous-over-flash/#comment-166 Hi Jonathan

I haven’t done any testing with script.aculo.us and accessibility, but I know you run into all sorts of difficulties when you use a dynamic approach to building your page/DOM.

I would be inclined to avoid the use of DHTML and AJAX if accessibility is a major concern, unless you can ensure that all JS functionality degrades gracefully. It is possible but quite difficult to implement.

If you want a nice tutorial on DOM scripting in a way that degrades nicely in the absence of JS give me a shout and I’ll send you the link.

Rgds

Richard

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By: Jonathanhttp://www.redcardinal.ie/javascript/23-08-2006/gucci-places-faith-in-scriptaculous-over-flash/#comment-165 Mon, 20 Nov 2006 16:52:27 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/webdev/23-08-2006/gucci-places-faith-in-scriptaculous-over-flash/#comment-165 Sorry, totally used incorrect email address have amended now…

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By: Jonathanhttp://www.redcardinal.ie/javascript/23-08-2006/gucci-places-faith-in-scriptaculous-over-flash/#comment-164 Mon, 20 Nov 2006 16:50:54 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/webdev/23-08-2006/gucci-places-faith-in-scriptaculous-over-flash/#comment-164 Was just wondering, how Script.aculo.us affects accessibility, especially in Browsers/User agents that do not have Javascript enabled. Any ideas?

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By: Richard Hearnehttp://www.redcardinal.ie/javascript/23-08-2006/gucci-places-faith-in-scriptaculous-over-flash/#comment-163 Tue, 29 Aug 2006 20:39:18 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/webdev/23-08-2006/gucci-places-faith-in-scriptaculous-over-flash/#comment-163 Cheers Brett

That was one serious typo.

No offense to Thomas – innocent slip :)

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By: Brett Terpstrahttp://www.redcardinal.ie/javascript/23-08-2006/gucci-places-faith-in-scriptaculous-over-flash/#comment-162 Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:51:08 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/webdev/23-08-2006/gucci-places-faith-in-scriptaculous-over-flash/#comment-162 You might want to check the spelling of Thomas’ name in that last paragraph ;-).

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